The Rise of the European Goalie

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The Rise of the European Goalie

Postby Cubanpuckstopper » Wed May 26, 2010 5:56 pm

During this year's Stanley Cup, European goalies have gotten a lot of attention.

Three seperate media points follow on this topic.

First, this article, linked below.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/h ... le1577236/

Second, the embedded Youtube clip from Hockey Night in Canada coverage.

Thirdly, the original article, http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/h ... le1575082/


There are numerous references to the Finnish system. And the author, James Mirtle, is interested in anything Finnish as it relates to goaltending.
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Postby Jukka Ropponen » Wed May 26, 2010 7:52 pm

Greg, I believe that you will be in a good position to comment this yourself in a few weeks after you have been working at our camp.

If you look at the graph in this article it makes you ask that why are all NHL goalie coaches still North American? Good old boy society working there I guess.

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Postby Cubanpuckstopper » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:52 pm

There is a whole infrastructure in place in North America that still remains intact and keeps things from changing.

Below are two jpg files of an article from 2003 that describes some of the differences. (you may need to enlarge the images to read)

The article :
- describes Eurpoean teams as "public entities"
- describes a typical European off season
- and is highly complimentary of Bernd Brückler's work ethic.

The article is almost seven years old but many of the points made are still valid or at least debatable.


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Postby Jukka Ropponen » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:58 am

Thanks for posting.

Next week you can talk about this with Bernd personally as he will be coaching every morning with us at the camp and then work out himself at noon on our pro ice.

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Postby Cubanpuckstopper » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:17 pm

More on this, from Stephan Waite, via InGoal magazine

http://ingoalmag.com/news/fewer-canadia ... -athletes/

A valid article, but equates flexibility with athleticism, and really overlooks the role that Finnish dryland training has in development of goalies.

Also the article does not mention the number of European goalie coaches staying the same even though the number of European goalies has increased dramatically.
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Postby Cubanpuckstopper » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:11 am

Greetings

To my US and Canadian friends who are enjoying the GoaliePro clinic this week, here is an article you can discuss while in Finland.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/01/ca ... on-decline
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Postby Jukka Ropponen » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:23 pm

Cubanpuckstopper wrote:Greetings

To my US and Canadian friends who are enjoying the GoaliePro clinic this week, here is an article you can discuss while in Finland.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/01/ca ... on-decline


Fun article, this statement sounds like something people could say in Russia:

"Too many junior teams are taking the easy way out by bringing in European goaltenders and not giving Canadian kids the chance to develop,"


I wonder why teams are doing this???? Because they can get much better goalies this way. Fix the root cause (basic training, goalie coaches educational and certification program, do this systematically for 5-10 years and problem starts going away).
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Re: The Rise of the European Goalie

Postby Cubanpuckstopper » Thu May 30, 2013 5:35 pm

It has been a year since this trhead had a bump.

But here's a reason to bump tothe top.

CHL Considers Euro Ban to Fix Canada’s Goalie Problem
http://ingoalmag.com/news/chl-considers ... e-problem/

It has the appearance of if you can't beat them, ban them.
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Re: The Rise of the European Goalie

Postby Jukka Ropponen » Thu May 30, 2013 6:04 pm

I was reading about this earlier today. Tugnutt is wrong, teams are bringing European talent over as they are better trained and have better technique. The right way to do this is to fix the coaches education system (like Jack wrote on hiw white paper we published today) and via that route start producing better goalies.
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Re: The Rise of the European Goalie

Postby Cubanpuckstopper » Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:02 pm

The IIHF has responded to the CHL ban on European goalies, and it is different than most of the other points of view.

http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/news ... 78d9a19115
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Re: The Rise of the European Goalie

Postby Cubanpuckstopper » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:15 pm

Tonight is the NHL draft.

From InGoal Magazine, - The Top Five 2015 Draft Eligible Goalies
http://ingoalmag.com/analysis/top-5-dra ... altenders/

As noted by Magnus Olsson in a facebook post, 3 of the 5 are European,

All are 6'2" or taller.
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